tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post6079658150480621419..comments2023-06-24T03:04:03.135-07:00Comments on Here's To Hope: The Boom Boom RoomMax Powerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14955796304197971564noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-36031302140075932332009-07-21T21:49:28.810-07:002009-07-21T21:49:28.810-07:00No, I'm fairly certain that if you don't p...No, I'm fairly certain that if you don't practice the religion, you do not fall under that label any longer. The fact that mormons have a somewhat defined subculture doesn't even approach the comparison to Jews. Perhaps that's left to pure opinion.<br /><br />The Mormon Utah population is not made up entirely of the original settlers' genetics, that is absurd. There is such a phenomena as state to state migration that occurs in this country. Besides, it was less than 200 years ago they settled there, correct? That is not long enough to constitute an entirely new race.<br /><br />I'm not arguing what you said about the origins of homosexuality because it's politically incorrect. I'm arguing what you said because again it's baseless and rather absurd.Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08861061252989912232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-75334474645590031112009-07-21T17:26:39.370-07:002009-07-21T17:26:39.370-07:00Also:
"Mormons are NOT a race like the nativ...Also:<br /><br />"Mormons are NOT a race like the native Israelites. There is no real comparison to the Jews."<br /><br />Actually I'd argue that by any definition, Utah Mormons are about the closest thing to a modern "race" as any--they are an isolated group that doesn't mix genes outside of themselves--it's white mormons marrying white mormons. How long does it have to be like that before they start to have genetic codes unique enough due to that policy that they will be considered a unique race?<br /><br />Secondly, I wasn't saying that Mormons are comporable to Jews as a "race". I mean that you don't have to practice Judiasim to be a Jew. I know Jews who are PROUD to state their Jewish heritage, as the chow down on a pork sandwich when then should be at synagogue. They are still Jews. Most Moho's I meet who leave the church, who never practice any of it's policies again, will happily refer to themselves as Mormons.<br /><br />Now look at any other christian faith, where a person is no longer active... they don't continue to call themselves catholic... they might say "I was raised catholic" but that's a lot different--it's a past tense.Ezrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249055675517672157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-52950421875737754142009-07-21T17:20:40.947-07:002009-07-21T17:20:40.947-07:00@Colin
Your response is EXACTLY the reason why I ...@Colin<br /><br />Your response is EXACTLY the reason why I started the post with "and I don't think they are politically correct enough to share..."<br /><br />I'm gay, out and still commonly identify as Mormon. You've taken some thoughts that I parsed out rather rapidly and assumed that I "believe" what I wrote. I mere't said I've had "lots of thoughts on the matter".<br /><br />I can (and do) ruminate on many things, but it doesn't become a belief just because I speculate on something.<br /><br />So yeah, please relax, we're all friends here.Ezrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249055675517672157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-80241003022380140272009-07-21T17:03:46.554-07:002009-07-21T17:03:46.554-07:00I must interject here, Ezra you are making some ra...I must interject here, Ezra you are making some rather outlandish and baseless claims in that comment.<br /><br />Mormons are NOT a race like the native Israelites. There is no real comparison to the Jews.<br /><br />Also, it goes without saying that the concept of being born with an entire belief system ingrained into your psyche is cuckoo bananas.<br /><br />There are many gay people that have come out of the most liberal set of parents to be seen, I have seen this myself while living in the Seattle area. While it isn't entirely out of line to say that nurture might have an effect on sexuality, it is rather ridiculous to assert the notion that everything that's oppressed and shamed is sexually fetishsized.<br /><br />You're free to believe whatever you want (even if there's no real scientific basis behind it) but I felt the need to point the absurdity of what you were saying.Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08861061252989912232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-6016259931757439722009-07-21T16:21:57.357-07:002009-07-21T16:21:57.357-07:00Funny, we have a Boom Boom Room in Portland but it...Funny, we have a Boom Boom Room in Portland but it's a club of the strippling ladies variety and it's connected to a Szechuan restaurant so you can get your boobs and beef all in one sitting.JonJonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14158807819966424747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1479380539550503069.post-3433966544156119732009-07-21T09:55:48.428-07:002009-07-21T09:55:48.428-07:00I've had a lot of thoughts on this matter... a...I've had a lot of thoughts on this matter... and I don't think they are politically correct enough to share...<br /><br />Basically, I feel like homosexuality is a combination of nature and nurture. Just as someone with alcoholism had the genetic disposition (and no, I'm not trying to directly compare sexuality and alcoholism) they still must be exposed to certain things (actually consume alcohol) to generate the active state.<br /><br />So you have a senstive boy who admires the men around him, but is constantly belittled for not being "manly" enough, for being a faggot, a momma's boy, etc... he will repress these thoughts and tendencies--which causes them to take deep root.<br /><br />If you as a child were raised without believing that you are an abomination, you might never fully sexualize the same gender.<br /><br />I'm not trying to make a full blown case here--nor am I trying to say that gay is a state brought on by environment--but I'd say oppression has a lot to do with it.<br /><br />Also, you'd probably find the other 4 where raised some other form of christianity--it's just as Mormons, it is in our blood to be Mormons... it's not like that with other christians who fall away... the only comparable group seems to be the jews.Ezrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249055675517672157noreply@blogger.com